I am just getting started experimenting with a modified Bicron 1.5M2.25/1.5L NaI(Tl) probe, using Theremino hardware and software. Just getting started with gamma spectroscopy other than using a Radiacode.
I was told that perhaps I could get a more linear response, not needing as much adjustment with the ThereminoMCA linearizer, if I lowered the voltage to the probe. I lowered from about 730 volts to 650 volts and it appeared that I lost some peaks when testing Am241 from a smoke detector. I did find that the linearizer did not need to be adjusted as far from center positions with the lower voltage.
Is such a thing normal or am I doing something wrong?
Any suggestion on what voltage should be used?
NaI(Tl) Gamma Scintillation detector Voltage
NaI(Tl) Gamma Scintillation detector Voltage
Chuck, NX9V
Mineral Point, Wisconsin, USA
Mineral Point, Wisconsin, USA
Re: NaI(Tl) Gamma Scintillation detector Voltage
I ultimately gave up on seeking for very linear response (I assume you mean: how the location of gamma
Here are several plots that may answer some of your questions. Perhaps the file Plateaux.pdf is the most important--ignore the Ludlum data (it was a bad detector). You could argue that you should select the bias voltage that keeps the response of the detector system (here, in counts per second, if I remember correctly, for some damn peak or another, presumably using a gamma source) as insensitive to bias voltage as possible. The right hand side of the plateaux plot is the derivative of the response with respect to bias.
There was a gain boost within PRA (which I used for all of the above) that has a large impact on locations in the (arbitrary unit) spectrum .
Hope this helps!
DMW
peaks change as you change bias?
Here are several plots that may answer some of your questions. Perhaps the file Plateaux.pdf is the most important--ignore the Ludlum data (it was a bad detector). You could argue that you should select the bias voltage that keeps the response of the detector system (here, in counts per second, if I remember correctly, for some damn peak or another, presumably using a gamma source) as insensitive to bias voltage as possible. The right hand side of the plateaux plot is the derivative of the response with respect to bias.
There was a gain boost within PRA (which I used for all of the above) that has a large impact on locations in the (arbitrary unit) spectrum .
Hope this helps!
DMW
D. M. Wood, retired physics professor
Arvada, Colorado (USA)
SAFECAST member (bGeigie Nano)
Arvada, Colorado (USA)
SAFECAST member (bGeigie Nano)
Re: NaI(Tl) Gamma Scintillation detector Voltage
Thank you for the information. It is helpful. I am finding that my probe is very sensitive to bias voltage. I am trying to get back to the arrangement that produced the "730V" graph with the nice low energy peak, finding that just 10-20 volts at ~730V makes a noticeable difference in peak location, throwing calibration off.
I am not sure the Theremino hardware I am using is all that (temperature?) stable, or my meter system is not stable. In 24 hours with probably a 10-15F drop in room temperature, I measure a 35 volt increase in PMT bias.
I understood soon after first starting to experiment with this probe that peaks move, gain varies, when I change PMT voltage. My main concern when first making this post was how my low energy peak disappeared when I lowered the bias from around 730 to 650 volts. So far, I have not been able to get back to that nice sharp 26KeV peak, it comes up rather wide while the higher peak stays sharp.
I think one thing I need to do is replace the voltage adjust pot on the Theremino board with a 10 turn pot to make adjustment easier and maybe more stable, it is so fiddly with the one turn pot.
I am not sure the Theremino hardware I am using is all that (temperature?) stable, or my meter system is not stable. In 24 hours with probably a 10-15F drop in room temperature, I measure a 35 volt increase in PMT bias.
I understood soon after first starting to experiment with this probe that peaks move, gain varies, when I change PMT voltage. My main concern when first making this post was how my low energy peak disappeared when I lowered the bias from around 730 to 650 volts. So far, I have not been able to get back to that nice sharp 26KeV peak, it comes up rather wide while the higher peak stays sharp.
I think one thing I need to do is replace the voltage adjust pot on the Theremino board with a 10 turn pot to make adjustment easier and maybe more stable, it is so fiddly with the one turn pot.
Chuck, NX9V
Mineral Point, Wisconsin, USA
Mineral Point, Wisconsin, USA
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Re: NaI(Tl) Gamma Scintillation detector Voltage
Chuck,
Right, linearity generally improves with lower voltage, not sure if this is caused by the PMT or the opamp, but you can test with a Thorium source and find a good compromise.
Here is a spreadsheet I made.
Steven
Right, linearity generally improves with lower voltage, not sure if this is caused by the PMT or the opamp, but you can test with a Thorium source and find a good compromise.
Here is a spreadsheet I made.
Steven
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