hi all,
My name is John and I try to build signal channel analyzer. Espcsially I would like to made instrument to mesure low x-ray energies about 5-10kev.
I have crystal Cs(ti) with PMt tube EMI 9524.
I have negative high voltage power supply -826v , after charge sencitive amplifier which produce an output with 150μS pulse width and the pulse height about 60mv up to 200mv. Also , I build an operational amplifier LM833 which I power it with +/-12v to increase pulses 20 times , it must?
Moreover , I have LM219 and I would like to build window comparator have some one a circuit?
Lust , I upload the noise of circuit and other photos of my board
Single channel analyzer
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john scint
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Sesselmann
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Re: Single channel analyzer
Hi John,
Thanks for the introduction..
You do not need much gain for sound card spectrometry, instead you need a nice clean pulse of around 100-150 µs with a pulse height of around 150-200 mV from Cs137 (662 keV). It is preferable to run the signal through an RC filter to round off the top of the pulse.
The sound card Line-In port should have a range of -+1.4 Volts.
Why are you running your PMT with negative voltage, is this the recommended bias?
Normal PMT bias is positive to anode and ground to the photocathode.
Steven
Thanks for the introduction..
You do not need much gain for sound card spectrometry, instead you need a nice clean pulse of around 100-150 µs with a pulse height of around 150-200 mV from Cs137 (662 keV). It is preferable to run the signal through an RC filter to round off the top of the pulse.
The sound card Line-In port should have a range of -+1.4 Volts.
Why are you running your PMT with negative voltage, is this the recommended bias?
Normal PMT bias is positive to anode and ground to the photocathode.
Steven
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john scint
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Re: Single channel analyzer
Hi Steven,
thank for your quick reply,
I run PMT with negative power supply because I started before years with one other instrument "DT590 scintillation probe - PDR 56F radiac set" and then building some other like this one ... I shop negative power supply and I start stady from this instrument.....
I would like to build a handle instrument which it can adjust the energy which I need every time and then with TTL pulses on output I'll count them.
have some one circuit?
thank for your quick reply,
I run PMT with negative power supply because I started before years with one other instrument "DT590 scintillation probe - PDR 56F radiac set" and then building some other like this one ... I shop negative power supply and I start stady from this instrument.....
I would like to build a handle instrument which it can adjust the energy which I need every time and then with TTL pulses on output I'll count them.
have some one circuit?
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Sesselmann
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Re: Single channel analyzer
John,
I wouldn't build a single channel analyser, I would just use an iPhone and geigerbot to achieve the same thing.
https://youtu.be/CMav0wHTEMQ
Steven
I wouldn't build a single channel analyser, I would just use an iPhone and geigerbot to achieve the same thing.
https://youtu.be/CMav0wHTEMQ
Steven
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john scint
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Re: Single channel analyzer
Dear Steven
May you have a circuit?
May you have a circuit?
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Sesselmann
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Re: Single channel analyzer
No, haven't made one of those, but Google it and something should come up.
Steven
Steven
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john scint
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Re: Single channel analyzer
Also, May you know if and how can I know the energy of every element on kev which instrument scintillation probe detect???
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miree
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Re: Single channel analyzer
Hello John
This website might be useful: http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/chart/chartNuc.jsp You can click on any isotop and get a list of the decay radiation (appears on the bottom of the page after selecting a radioactive isotope). The page has also a link to a gamma finder (click on "Levels and Gammas" on the bottom right of the page) where you can search for isotopes with given decay energy.
Michael
This website might be useful: http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/chart/chartNuc.jsp You can click on any isotop and get a list of the decay radiation (appears on the bottom of the page after selecting a radioactive isotope). The page has also a link to a gamma finder (click on "Levels and Gammas" on the bottom right of the page) where you can search for isotopes with given decay energy.
Michael
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john scint
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Re: Single channel analyzer
Thank Michael ,
Very useful site.
But the first think on my homemade instrument are that, how can I know the level of voltage (mv per element) haves every element which detect my instrument???
I would like instrument detect only one element after calibration (single channel analyser)
How can I do that? Someone told me this can do only with one radiation source. I have Am-241 amerisium from smoke detector which it haves two peaks the one higher about 56 Kev
Very useful site.
But the first think on my homemade instrument are that, how can I know the level of voltage (mv per element) haves every element which detect my instrument???
I would like instrument detect only one element after calibration (single channel analyser)
How can I do that? Someone told me this can do only with one radiation source. I have Am-241 amerisium from smoke detector which it haves two peaks the one higher about 56 Kev
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Peter-1
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Re: Single channel analyzer
hello John,
i show you the response from my system with Am241.
The pulse is :
Peter
i show you the response from my system with Am241.
The pulse is :
Peter
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