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40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 13 Mar 2022, 12:33
by Geoff
Here's a spectrum of 40ish year old reactor grade plutonium with significant 241Am and 237U buildup. 59keV peak attenuated with cadmium. spectrum has been running for 32 hours and counting.
241Am/237U from 241Pu at 59 and 208keV, 238Pu at 43 and 152keV, 239Pu at 129 and 203keV. calibration is only accurate to 650keV

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Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 14 Mar 2022, 05:20
by MartinM
RID-1 or 6M ?
What device have you used for spectrometry?
How thick is the Cd shield, have you also used some other material like Cu?
Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 14 Mar 2022, 22:05
by Geoff
This is the source from a RID-6M. I'm using my modified GS1100A and an ASUS Xonar SE sound card. The detector is the model 7530 1" NaI(Tl) from Far West Technology Inc which is very sensitive between 30keV and 600keV. The attenuator is 1.1mm of pure cadmium in the form of 2 neutron activation foils. I didn't use any other attenuator between the sample and the detector, but my shield is made of copper followed by tin followed by tungsten and finally lead.
Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 14 Mar 2022, 23:25
by MartinM
Thanks! I'm trying to acquire a similar spectra, but using a 2x2" NaI and since I don't have a Cd sheet, I'm using Sn+Cu to shield the sample (assuming Sn might also be a good choice as it's just Z+2 after Cd) .
However the spectra I get looks rather like pure Am-241. So not sure whether I'm doing something wrong (either large crystal for sufficient sensitivity in this energy range or the shielding is not suitable), or the material is not what I expected.
I also tried with the Mirion PDS-100 which has a 1" CsI crystal. This looks somewhat better but doesn't allow a more extensive measurement.
Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 16 Mar 2022, 16:58
by Geoff
I think tin would work. I’m out of town right now but when I get home I can try attenuating with tin and tin+copper to see how well it works compared to cadmium.
Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 19 Mar 2022, 07:05
by Geoff
Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 06:32
by MartinM
Thank you for the results!
So it looks like my problem is the rather large crystal not sensitive enough to separate the different peaks in the 100-300 keV range.
Re: 40 year old Soviet Plutonium with daughters
Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 01:20
by MartinM
Hi Geoff,
I think the 43 keV peak can rather be attributed to Am-241 and the other prominent ones of Am-241 are at 99 and 103 keV.
Pu-239 should have peaks at 129 keV, which is however hard to distinguish using such spectrometer from another Am-241 at 125 keV.
Probably the most prominent Pu-239 peak in an area that should not be affected by other daughters should be visible at 413 and 375 keV.
Regards,
Martin